Argument For Secularism

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By Valentine Logar

The Truth of Intent of the Founding Fathers

 

An amazing thing happened on the way to developing an advanced Secular nation called the United States of America, we lost our way and forgot our most profound principals. To believe that this country was founded as a Christian nation is to ignore the very words of the founding fathers. For us to believe that this country was founded as a Christian nation we must suspend logic and ignore our most cherished documents the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. To understand the true intent of the founding fathers we have only to examine their words, such as the following examples:

The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind ... to filch wealth and power to themselves. [They], in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ. -Thomas Jefferson

Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind. -Thomas Paine

Of all the animosities, which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society. - George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

When a Religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its Professors are obliged to call for help of he Civil Power, it is a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one. - Benjamin Franklin from a letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. - James Madison (Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 1785.)

While all of the above are interesting side notes to the thinking of the founding fathers and should help to understand the nature and framework of the United States there is more. The most telling is the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by President John Adams it is a clear statement of not just intent but of true nature of the United States as a secular government. As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. - (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797 - signed by President John Adams.)

The United States was intended to be a secular nation, never a Christian nation, and certainly not a Theocracy. A nation that respected individual rights above all others. Never a nation that demanded only a single value system through legal sanctions. The evangelical right would have us believe that proof of the founding fathers intent can be found in the words "In God we Trust" on our currency. This, however, is a falsehood these words begin being added to coins in 1864 and were not added to paper money until 1957; eventually superseding the original motto of "E Pluribus Unum" (From Many, One) adopted in 1792 by the founding fathers. So as we see the first of the arguments regarding the "intent" of the founding fathers is eliminated by a simple assessment of the timeline.

So let us look at another word game that our evangelical friends like to roll out to "prove" their point. This one is even more interesting, it is the wording of the Pledge of Allegiance. Everyone knows where the offending words are in the Pledge; "One Nation under God, indivisible". Nevertheless, were these the original words of the Pledge and if not when did they change? The original pledge was written by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931) a Christian Socialist, in August 1892, it was published in the Youth's Companion September 8 issue and read as follows; "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." (Note: to was added in October 1892). In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer. So again, with a quick analysis of the timeline it is easy to see that the founding fathers had nothing to do with the God and public prayer in our Pledge. In fact, the Pledge was written in-line with the original intent of a secular government but was changed in the middle of the last century to represent a different agenda and one clearly not in line with either the intent of the founding fathers or the ideals of a secular government.

References: The Pledge of Allegiance A Short History, by Dr. John W. Baer, Copyright 1992

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Chef Jeff 3 years ago

There has been a lot of speculation about how much religion the founders put into their letters & documents, and how much religion played a part in their lives. I assume it was pretty much like today - it was a part of their lives, not a driving force in them. I have yet to see any serious proof that the founders were as evangelical as some folks are today.

One other thing is that I have read from many very religious folks saying that Masons were anti-Christian, which would be a surprise to me, since I am from a family of Masons. But if most of the founders were also Masons, doesn't that sort of negate the claim made by modern day evangelicals that they were also Christians?

I am a Christian, but I am also a human being, and I keep my faith and beliefs to myself, unless someone asks me directly about them.

Great hub, well written and ludic in every detail!

Cheers!

Chef Jeff

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Valentine Logar Hub Author 3 years ago

I also come from a family of Masons on one side. I think I can safely say they did not shun Christianity. My issue has never been with the beliefs or religious practices of others, only with the imposition of those practices or beliefs through the legislation. My argument is with the lack of understanding of our Constitution and with the intent of the Founding Fathers. It doesn't require a significant amount of study to understand their intent.

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dfager 2 years ago

Well said! People are forgetting history and why people came to the new world to escape religious persecution.

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Valentine Logar Hub Author 2 years ago

People don't forget history at all I am afraid that it is being rewritten.

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adagio4639 Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I think you're right Val. I think that the history simply doesn't comport with the desires of certain people that wish it were otherwise. The separation of church and state is necessary for a democracy such as this to exist. Those who would oppose it, oppose democracy itself.

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Valentine Logar Hub Author 17 months ago

Well we can either suspend our intellect or we can refuse historical proofs, or both I suppose. There are many who are opting for both. I was recently looking for quotes from Ms. Palin and found her misquotes of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, it was stunning. This is what we come too.

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sir slave 16 months ago

I am secular! and its tough to try to expain what spiritual, but not religious means!! more people are getting it, but the more religious ones will never get it!!

Cuilean 8 months ago

My own form of "poking the bear" is to speak up when someone holds up the Pledge of Allegiance as the epitome of patriotism, and to inform them of Francis Bellamy and who he was. From that, I assert that the pledge is a paean to socialism and is not compatible with the Randian form of capitalism that so many Republicans revere.

It's certainly good for a laugh as they scramble to recover their composure and rationalize their continued belief in the pledge.

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Patti Riggs Hale 3 months ago

I tell people you can't keep God out of schools or where ever God wants to go. I also say prayer is a private thing and like Jesus said, should not be done on a street corner. When I am being "led in prayer" I'm not praying I'm listening to the person "leading" and I'm pretty sure that person is concentrating more about saying things to impress those he is "leading" than he is in having a one on one with God. That's just my opinion.

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Valentine Logar Hub Author 3 months ago

Patti, hi. The Bible and Jesus said go to a private place to pray. The Qur'an says pray in public as called and as commanded by Mohammad.

I agree with you, the one praying in public is likely concentrating on the impression they are making.

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